AN INTERVIEW WITH BOOGIE

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Photos by Boogie

This is one of the most insightful interviews I’ve read in a while. Boogie’s work continues to astonish me. Not only for the beauty of his images, but also for their honesty. We’ve featured some of Boogie’s work before. Here and here, but I recommend you checking out some of his photo books as well. Sclusey F, Morgan? That means you. Recently, Matthew Newton spoke with famed culture photographer Boogie, about the impact of his work, his life as an immigrant and the lure of the American Dream. In short, Boogie’s images give us a window to view realities that we’d otherwise never encounter. I said it well, but Matthew said it better:

Boogie’s photographs have the power to knock the wind out of you, or set a fire in your mind. His shots are provocative in an unexpected way. Amidst violence, sorrow, and grim reality, he manages to wring clarity and beauty from the chaos.

When you hear the term, “the American dream,” what does it mean to you?

[The American dream] used to mean something, but now I think it’s dead. Before coming to the U.S., I had this vision of Americans starting their little business and succeeding based on their hard work and good ideas. Nowadays, you open your little coffee shop, you do great, and then Starbucks comes and destroys you. Or you pay your health insurance every month for years, then you get sick and the insurance company won’t cover you, so you go bankrupt. You hear more and more stories of normal, middle-class people struggling to meet ends. Doesn’t sound like a dream any more.

Do you think this means that life in America has become harder, or that life in the 21st Century is just more difficult as a whole?

I think life is more difficult in general, but it doesn’t make any sense to me. With all the technological advancements we see, people’s lives should be easier, not harder.

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Photos By Boogie

When you first arrived in New York, did you experience culture shock?

Of course, it was a huge culture shock. I’d never been to the States prior to moving here. So whatever I knew about the U.S., I learned through the movies. It meant I knew nothing. In the movies, even police detectives have amazing lofts in the heart of the city, and there I was in my studio in Queens without TV, just a mattress and an old radio. So it was rough. But what can you do? You accept it and get through it. It took a while to adjust. And if you ask me if I would do it all over again? Nope, never.

How do you select a topic or person to photograph? And once that choice is made, how do you gain the trust needed to shoot such intimate photographs?

I don’t really select a topic or person [for my photos], or have a method of gaining trust. I just go with the flow and things somehow work out. I try not to judge people and approach them with an open heart, with respect. And people recognize that and feel ok with me. Most of the shots that I have of gang members with guns and people shooting up I have because they asked me to take them. You can’t really ask people if you can shoot them in those situations—imagine going to the projects and asking people to take photos of them with guns? It wouldn’t end well.

What attracted you to photography as a career?

It’s simply the only thing I can imagine myself doing.

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10 Comments

  1. om
    April 20, 2010 at | Permalink

    first shot left me speechless

  2. Anonymous
    April 20, 2010 at | Permalink

    Very thought provoking.

  3. Milt
    April 20, 2010 at | Permalink

    this book is awesome…you can get it at upper playgound in the B

  4. Becca
    April 20, 2010 at | Permalink

    This is so real

  5. Reed
    April 20, 2010 at | Permalink

    “And if you ask me if I would do it all over again? Nope, never.” Not sure how I feel about that.

    I don’t think the american dream ever really existed. I just think we are more aware of it now. You can’t tell me that it hasn’t always been tough for immigrants in this country and that they haven’t been getting fucked over since day one. Fuck, half of the country’s initial population was FORCED to come here.

  6. Reed
    April 20, 2010 at | Permalink

    suppose it’s called the american “dream” for a reason…

  7. B. Williams
    April 20, 2010 at | Permalink

    Boogie is amazing at what he does. Cool to see a glimpse of the philosophy behind the work. Reed I’m inclined to agree with you about the American dream; it’s basically a facade, or at best an illusory vision of a path that’s only really accessible to certain people.

    With that said, I think it’s a fair point that it used to represent something more legitimate, at least with the example of building a small business, which Boogie uses. The corporatization of just about everything in this country (and the global economy) makes building one’s own dream, and consequently the goal of achieving financial independence or wealth through it incredibly difficult.

    The modern American dream seems to be to create something commercially viable enough to sell to a corporate entity with more money than you so they can homogenize and ruin it. Pretty shitty dream if you ask me.

  8. Reed
    April 20, 2010 at | Permalink

    I feel you bundy. And the pictures are really incredible. Where’s he from originally?

  9. Lee Blair
    April 21, 2010 at | Permalink

    It was called the American Dream as long as white folks were having the dream. Sure, there was always a little spillage, but the majority of fulfilled dreams were theirs. Now that our country is about to become majority/minorities, the “Dream” becomes a nightmare. It is just like white folks to close up the dream shop now that the majority of dreamers will be people of color. This mirrors our recent debacle over health care. Some folks just can’t stand it when people of color receive equal rights. And we all know what those folks are called: Racists!

    What is tragic is that wherever I have gone in this big world of ours, I was an American first, person of color second. Yet in my own homeland, I’m just a nigger. These jerks refuse to believe their own President is a citizen! Wake Up America!

  10. Anonymous
    April 21, 2010 at | Permalink

    yikes lee. yikes

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